tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21010261.post116908146078239153..comments2024-03-14T01:33:48.461-04:00Comments on <b>Rock Piles</b>: Re-evaluating the risk of vandalismpwaxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16647940752050937588noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21010261.post-1169243959116595802007-01-19T16:59:00.000-05:002007-01-19T16:59:00.000-05:00Up where you are, it's probably more liberal, but ...Up where you are, it's probably more liberal, but there is a real threat to some sites in conservative areas because native sacred sites are seen as demonic by right wing Christians, who would feel they were on a crusade for good if they could destroy a few. Bizarre but true. There are also just Indian haters who justify destruction saying, Indians killed our ancestors. Not every area is as Geophilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17206319191769614929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21010261.post-1169184109777722892007-01-19T00:21:00.000-05:002007-01-19T00:21:00.000-05:00Some of what Peter speaks of occurs via lack of kn...Some of what Peter speaks of occurs via lack of knowledge. I have to admit I did this myself. Finding a site that is quite amazing and obviously more than what others just dismissed as stone clearing was frustrating, I simply wanted to know for my own selfish satisfaction (for lack of a better explaination) that these were not stones randomly tossed into piles. I selected a pile that was not wellbcolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362559147632442264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21010261.post-1169150140300139902007-01-18T14:55:00.000-05:002007-01-18T14:55:00.000-05:00So now I get the dork award for leaving three comm...So now I get the dork award for leaving three comments in a row.<BR/><BR/>As far as the bulldozer claiming sites, that issue needs to be handled very much on a case-by-case basis. Land ownership issues are the primary determinant in the feasibility of site protection.<BR/><BR/>The land upon which sits many of the sites we talk about on this blog are already protected by preservation easements andJimPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07079857211571520647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21010261.post-1169148480740443872007-01-18T14:28:00.000-05:002007-01-18T14:28:00.000-05:00Oh, and to answer your question about whether thes...Oh, and to answer your question about whether these sites I mentioned were ruined because of publicity or because a trail led to them -- there are both. One in Rhode Island was ruined (and continues to be) by publicity and one in Massachusetts was ruined by publicity. The others were ruined because those who did harm found them on their own.JimPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07079857211571520647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21010261.post-1169148257176468982007-01-18T14:24:00.000-05:002007-01-18T14:24:00.000-05:00True, Peter, there aren't many pot hunters in New ...True, Peter, there aren't many pot hunters in New England. Of course, that's mostly because pot-hunting already cleared the vast majority of sites more than 100 years ago. <BR/><BR/>If you visit many local museums in Massachusertts you'll find scores of artifacts with little or no accession records. It was a veritable free-for-all in New England for hundreds of years. The artifacts have been JimPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07079857211571520647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21010261.post-1169129791680716332007-01-18T09:16:00.000-05:002007-01-18T09:16:00.000-05:00The last sentence says a lot; my recent post at "W...The last sentence says a lot; my recent post at "Waking Up" about chestnut rails should have included photos of some of these rails destroyed by the Town during brush clearing along the road last summer.<BR/>On a good note that I failed to mention, for reasons I'm not entirely sure of, some zigzag stone rows along my road escaped destruction when the town abandoned plans to re-route my road...Tim MacSweeneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15517237193572593390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21010261.post-1169116969182540292007-01-18T05:42:00.000-05:002007-01-18T05:42:00.000-05:00You are right. But at least in New England there c...You are right. But at least in New England there class of vandal called "pot hunter" does not exist in any meaningful way, as it does in the southwest.pwaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16647940752050937588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21010261.post-1169103018230611522007-01-18T01:50:00.000-05:002007-01-18T01:50:00.000-05:00I totally agree with your comments, well spoken.Th...I totally agree with your comments, well spoken.The message is clear and Respect for these sacred sites is vital. <BR/>Greatmuingreatmuinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08495011891856203812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21010261.post-1169083919700678352007-01-17T20:31:00.000-05:002007-01-17T20:31:00.000-05:00It isn't vandalism for the sake of vandalism that ...It isn't vandalism for the sake of vandalism that I fear. It is vandalism from cultural theft.<BR/><BR/>I've seen it at three Rhode Island sites. I know it occurred at one highly publicized site in Massachusetts as well. I've seen photos of it. I've posted photos of it to this blog.<BR/><BR/>It's the New Agers, Neo-Pagans, so-called, "twinkies," and, "wannabes," -- non-Indians who are trolling JimPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07079857211571520647noreply@blogger.com