Another small collection of rock piles on Nobscott Hill

Went back to comb the northern edges of the hill, behind the apartment complexes. Found another example of a house foundation built on the steepest part of an outcrop - a peculiar way to place a house. There is another to the east on the way up to Tippling Rock. But anyway, there was one tumble of loose rocks other than the house foundation that caught my attention. I had trouble photo-ing it under the dappled light:There was a bit of a ring of stones at one end of the larger tumble. Here is another view with the ring visible on the right.

Wausau County Rock Piles

Found this photo online and got permission from Todd Fonstad to reproduce it. He writes:

Just give credit to the Carl Guell slide collection at the University of Wisconsin Oshkosh. ...Unfortunately, many of his aerial photos are somewhat blurry due to air speed.
I wanted to comment that I do not think these are all farmer's field clearing. Click to magnify and look at the curved line of small rock piles leading up to the larger one in the upper left of the photo. That looks too geometric to be the result of random rock disposal. More generally, I am fascinated with this photo and what it suggests.

Small Rock Pile Sites along Sawmill Brook - Estabrook Woods Concord, MA

It is rare that I get to add a new "dot" to my map of sites in Concord but I was lucky to find a couple of small rock pile sites along the brook that empties from Hutchins Pond, northeast of Punkatasset Hill in my hometown, Concord.

It was raining and overcast so the pictures, without flash, are blurry.And, while I am making excuses, the piles were not much to look at either. Buried in the moss, hidden in the ferns.Or, with trees growing up from them.
In one place I saw a bit of quartz but the photo was too blurred to show it. Still, seeing new rock piles in Concord is a treat. I found them in two groups along what is labeled Sawmill Brook on the topo map. This didn't used to all be woods. I saw a small stone bridge, so once there were roads through here.I doubt anyone has been here recently.

Quartz Platform Pile - Rochester, VT

Norman Muller writes:

Scanning some of the posts on your blog on my return from vacation, I was attracted to the one from Kevin on June 30, which made reference to a platform and retaining walls overlooking a waterfall in Bear's Den in New Salem, MA. This platform reminded me of a quartz platform that Ernie Clifford showed me in Rochester, VT, some years back. Located near the top of a small mountain, this platform was about 15 feet across and constructed nearly entirely of angular quartz rocks built against a huge erratic of gneiss. The platform faced in a westerly direction, and it was my feeling, as well as that of Ernie, that it was used for a vision quest ritual. Given the location of the Bear's Den platform overlooking a spectacular waterfall, it makes sense that it too might have been used as a vision quest site.

Mound used for fill for a Sam's Club

So it goes.
Update: Is there anything this blog could do to help protect against this?
Ah! I have an idea, I'll post the names of the bad guys. Who knows, perhaps a Google searcher will be drawn here because of it. The article, from the montgomeryadvertiser.com includes:

"...Oxford Mayor Leon Smith and City Project Manager Fred Denney said it was used to send smoke signals...."

It seems Mayor Leon Smith and City Project Manager Fred Denney are the bad guys. It is hard to see how what they are doing is good for the people in general.

New rock piles on Great Hill in Acton, MA

I went for a very pleasant walk with my wife Barbara at Great Hill in Acton. This is the big hill along Rt 27, pretty much behind the "Discovery Museum". It is a conservation land that I have visited a number of times in the past, finding small clusters of rock piles in three or four places. But I was trying to come up with someplace near home to explore and had been day dreaming about exploring around the northern part of this hill - a part of the hill I'd never been to.

We parked at the little parking lot on Rt 27 at the foot of the hill and I planned to cut to the left and head for the northern side of the hill. But when we got out of the car, I said: let's take a moment to look at the hillside, I just want to look closely. Here was the view:Looking carefully, it seemed that there might be some rock piles on the slope. In fact there were several suspicious "shadows on the rock" - where rocks might be piled up a bit.[ Click on the picture to see more detail.] It seemed the slope might actually be covered with rock piles. Who knew! How many times have I been past here without noticing anything? I have gotten better at knowing what to look for, or maybe this is the first time here without tree leaves blocking the view? So we went up the slope and, yes, it is covered with 50 or so rock piles. This is very typical type of site for a westward facing, steep, hillside that is flat or concave: all the piles are visible at one time, seen from various places on the slope. Let's take a closer look. The light was not good, so pictures are a bit blurred.The piles are damaged but the layout is still reasonably clear. In many places you could see lines of piles, evenly spaced:I asked my wife to stand with a pile at her feet, to help show the line:There is a lot of damaged structure up here but you still can get a decent sense of the place.
Evidently a major calendrical site. No question that these are ceremonial rock piles:Little question that the piles along with almost every rock were part of the large scale deliberate layout.Near the top of the slope, some larger boulders with rock piles, or damaged remains of rock piles: As we moved across the slope, heading towards the north side of the hill, I said to my wife that there might be some further clusters of piles. We went around a slight shoulder of the hill and did find a separate cluster of piles. I pointed out that, as we went around this shoulder of the hill, the first concave section was no longer visible. Now, with new sight lines, there was another cluster of piles. This is what I expected because I believe the use of these sites involved looking along lines of sight over, or along the sides of, these rocks and piles. Nice old piles in the dead leaves.

Isolated Pile - Daskin Hill Framingham, MA

I found one isolated rock pile near one of the summits of Daskin Hill. I looked all around for some other piles nearby but did not see any. So there is not much context and good reason to mistrust this pile. But it is a substantial rock pile that looks like it had an inner chamber, now vandalized:Another view:

Deer, no rock piles

I never saw a fawn so closeup:

Bear's Den in New Salem, MA - from a NEARA member

[Used with permission from the NEARA yahoo group] Kevin writes:
Has anyone else been to the Trustees of the Reservation site named Bear's Den in New Salem? I noticed several things when hiking there last weekend. There is a waterfall and pool below it in a somewhat steep ravine.Looking out over the waterfall is a constructed platform with two small retaining walls made with very angular stone (Very different than the mill foundation in the vicinity which has typical rectangular block construction). Additionally the cliff face west of the waterfall has two or three narrow excavations in it about as wide as a person. It looks like possibly a quartz vein that was dug out and I could actually climb nearly ten feet back into the excavated vein. What makes this site even more interesting is that about a half mile to mile to the southeast is several cairn sites located along Route 202 west of the Quabbin [see here - Ed.]. Then about a half mile upstream to the west is a chamber ( I believe it was visited during the Northampton, Ma conference). Would love to hear of anyone else's thoughts on this, especially if they have visited the site.

Standing Stones - early historic reference

Norman Muller sends:

Reading the endnotes to Giovanna Neudorfer's Vermont Stone Chambers, I came across a reference to standing stones in Samuel Farmer Jarvis's A discourse on the religion of the Indian tribes of North America (New York Historical Society, 1820). I believe this is note 16 in Neudorfer's book, but the date she gives for it is incorrect; she says 1920, but it is 1820.

On page 106, Jarvis has the following quote from Captain John Smith's book General Historie of Virginia, New England, and the Summer Iles, with the names of the adventurers, planters, and governors, from their first beginning anno 1584 to this point 1625, London 1625 (Jarvis mentions that the quote comes from volume 4, chapter 3 of Smith's book; I'll have to check this):

"They have certaine altar stones, they call Pawcorances, but these stand from their temples, some by their houses, others in the woods and wildernesses, where they have had any extraordinary accident or encounter. As you travel by theam they will tell you the cause of their erection, wherein they instruct their children; so that they are in stead of records and memorialls of their antiquities. Upon this they offer Bloud, Dear Suet, and Tobacco. There they doe when they returne from warres, from hunting, and upon many other occasions."

Fernbank Journal - an active archeology blog

Archeology blogs that are about new finds and which are updated regularly are rare. Here is one.

Cape Cod Times Interview

I get interviewed here (at the end of the article) with only a couple of errors in transcription.

A gully on the north side of Nobscott Hill - Sudbury, MA

The videos I posted recently talk about my surprise and pleasure at finding myself in a rock pile site on the northwest part of Nobscott Hill, although the piles were badly smeared and nearly disappeared. The second video showed a large pile which is at the top of the gully at the lower right of the larger blue outline in the map fragment above. This larger pile was plunked down right about at the top of the gully, giving a clear impression that it was deliberately placed at the top of the water. And yet, like other piles along the lower edge of the orchard there, the pile included enough loose rubble to suggest it was just the result of dumping rocks pulled out of the agricultural area uphill.Note the rocks off to the left in the photo. But also you can see there is some decent construction present and that the rocks are sorted to about the same basic size.The same sort of confounding of the badly damaged ceremonial versus overly structured agricultural was true for most of what I saw here on Nobscott Hill. This hill has been crawled over repeatedly by all sorts of people - it is a major hill in conservation land right here in the busy suburbs. Anyway here are a couple more views of this large pile:
What struck me, in particular, about this pile was its placement at the head of a gully. Below it, perhaps 25 feet down the gully was this small circular structure:
Here it is in relation to the larger pile:Is this a fireplace? It looks like a little prayer seat, placed directly in the gully to derive the maximum benefit from the location.

We know from the history of Sudbury that Nobscott Hill was the residence of one of the local powwows/sachems named Tantamous (see quick summary here). I read that the word "Nobscott" is related to "place of falling rocks" - which may be a reference to "Tipping Rock", a perched erratic boulder on an more eastern summit of the hill. But the presence of Indians over here on the northern and northwestern side of the hill is evident. There were several clusters of rock piles. Including some further down this same gully, and some roughly where the smaller blue outline is on the map fragment above. Certainly a pleasant walk. I have been trying to find rock piles on Nobscott Hill over several years. Here they are.

Nipsachuck Update

A reader writes:

"The National Park Service has announced the award of $37,320 from the American Battlefield Protection Program to RIHPHC for a research and planning study of the Nipsachuck battlefields in the towns of North Smithfield and Smithfield. This project is an important initiative in the understanding and preservation of Rhode Island's 17th century past"

A Venus?

Nobscott Hill - Sudbury, MA: Rock Pile Videos

Burial Sniffing Dogs

We have seen this before, but here is a video, that may be new. From the footage it is pretty clear the dogs had no interest in the rock piles. I am in a whiney sort of mood. Does anyone else find the music to be a bit "cute"?

"Hopkinton Springs" - A Neara Field Trip to a Mavor & Dix site

In the chapter of Manitou by Mavor and Dix where they discuss the Upton chamber, they also discuss the vicinity of the chamber and some of the features found around the Whitehall Reservoir in Hopkinton, MA. In particular they talk about a place with mineral springs, used during the 19th century, and an adjacent site of earthworks and stone mounds (what I call rock piles). Here is the map they draw in the book on p.43:
So we went there last weekend on the NEARA field trip, and more than 1/2 the site is now gone to development. The earthworks, shown in the picture as a pentagon in one place and an upside down "T" in another - did not look very compelling when seen on the ground. The rock piles, were as decrepit and invisible as they get: smeared, low to the ground, hidden in a new grove of pine saplings:In retrospect, we could not have gotten to the sort of place shown as a cluster of rock piles on the upper right of the Manitou map. Either that has now been destroyed or we never actually found the location. Instead we saw was a minor rock pile site.

At the top of the slope with the cluster of piles was a solitary boulder with unusual geology and possible human manipulation - creating some curved marks on the boulder. Maybe it was where you sit in order to see the rock piles which would all have been visible from that point - spread out to the sides and below on the slope. They looked like marker piles but there are other possibilities. Hard to tell when you cannot see anything for the trees. - a bit of a disappointment. As I drove home I passed many places I know. We saw several fragments of chambers during the day, but I passed a more interesting one on the the way home, at a place we drove past to get to the mineral springs.

Riffing a bit more on this topic I want to offer a criticism of Manitou. We all know what a wonderful book it is, seminal in every way; but I think they made a few mistakes. First of all, they give a false sense that sites are rare. In fact, sites are all over the place - everywhere you look where they have not been destroyed. Secondly, the focus in Mavor and Dix is on astronomy. It is hard to doubt that what they call the "Earth, Sea, and Sky" were perceived by the Indians as interconnected, but I do doubt that the sky was as uniquely important as the authors make out in Manitou. For my money, water was more important.

Perhaps because they portrayed rock pile sites as rare, the sites they describe have a certain glamour. But sometimes, at least with the example above, when you see one of their sites on the ground it is less compelling than you would imagine from their description. For example, the mineral springs seem to consist of water coming out of the same glacial till ridge in three different places:I think the water would be what you get by filtering through sand and gravel - and no sense that one spring was "sulfur" and the next "magnesium" and "iron". Maybe that was 19th century marketing hype. I am not sure what to make of the earthworks.

In spite of my bitching, I hope NEARA readers will forgive me. It was nice to be out with other folk.

The Hopkinton Beehive - Neara Fieldtrip to Hopkinton, MA

Standing around before leaving:

[PICTURE REMOVED DUE TO CONCERNS ABOUT TRESSPASSING]

This was somewhere near Whitehall Reservoir. Here we are shown a copy of a page from the book "The Ruins of Great Ireland in New England" by William B. Goodwin.Apparently this was a corbelled structure built against a boulder. All that remains today:From the side:Here is the photo Malcolm Pierson took before the book was written: Standing around at the "chamber":
Also in the neighborhood was what we were told was another stone chamber that had been reconstructed according to the owner's knowledge/belief of the structure that had been there before it had been damaged. But maybe the owner actually got the idea from Malcolm Pierson's photo? These are all historic structures (I mean they have all been written about). See Flavin's Corner on "Dolmen Doldrums".